What other years models will fit a 1986 D50?

[FRODONKY]

Hi! i recently traded some things for a 1986 dodge D50 4x4 and ive decided to turn it into a project thing. Im wanting new fenders and front bumper assy and tailgate etc. But everything im finding online is 1984-85 and 87+ and all the websites say they "Dont fit 1986". How accurate is this? can a 1987 bumper fit the 1986? Will the '87 fenders fit the 86?

Im totally new to this truck and anything about it, in fact i never really thought id enjoy anything with vehicles but thats proving to be false lol.

Thank you for any help!

[geezer101]

Hi FRODONKY, welcome to mightyram. 1986 is the transition year between body types. So, depending on when it was built that year it could either be a gen 1 or a gen 2. Round wheel arches and chrome door handles = gen 1. Gen 2 are the more obviously modern designed version. Glad it's made a fan out of you :thumbup:

[FRODONKY]

Hey there! thank you for the reply :D
I believe on it somewhere says it was BUILT in 85, but the title and other stuff on it says 1986. IM assuming mine is a 1st gen then because i dont think anything on it is modern except what ive put on it lol. The interior is a mess and the previou owner mashed in the fenders near the doors so the large tires would clear (hey dont get mad at me, he did it) the front bumper is mashed in. the whole truck is a crappy rhino liner pint job, however it runs like a top. The guy used it as a hunting truck so there is nothing pretty about it but i want to change that and im looking for interior and exterior parts to make it look good again. My problem is everything im finding online to buy seems to be a 1987 Part. I am just wondering if parts from a 1987 D50 will fit my 86?

[mitchi]

Welcome to the forum.........Got pictures?

[FRODONKY]

Why yes i do but they are on my phone, give me a sec and ill try and upload them.

[FRODONKY]

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you cant see very well from the pictures but the fenders behind each front tire are pushed in and bent, as well as the tailgate and the front bumper. I have actually started an organization for veterans with PTSD and depression and this is turning into my "Therepy" project for them/us. But im having a helluva time finding fenders and bumpers/tailgates that fit this thing online.

[FRODONKY]

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[pennyman1]

front bumpers fit from 83- 86, front fenders from 79 - 86, tailgate from 79 - 86. The confusion is the 86 mid year change - The 2nd gen trucks started in March of 86 as an 86, but is the squared off body of the 87 up models. You can also run an 79 - 82 front (narrow) bumper if you change out the brackets and turn signals. Keep us posted on the progress - we are willing to help!

[FRODONKY]

Ohh sweet thank you! that'll be a huge help! like I said i wasnt ever big in rebuilding cars or anything to do with vehicles really. Just wasn't my "Bag" but ever since i got this little thing im finding out i enjoy it more than i thought so im a total newbie. Thank you guys for the warm welcome and the help! At the moment im at kind of a stand still with the engine, its at the machine shop getting all fixed up, ill keep posting as i progress with it. Is it ok to do that here on this topic or should i post that somewhere else?

[geezer101]

Dude, this is a noble and worthy enterprise you have offered up. PTSD is a cruel affliction that needs more support and attention. Your D-50 group project is a metaphor in itself. :thumbup:

[FRODONKY]

Hey thank you! After i got out of the military and came home i started seeing SO many vets around here that just seemed stuck in a loop of hopelessness. Ive had several guys show up at the shop to bring parts and to make a new friend and to have an interaction with another vet. Ive been able to get local business and city council people to donate some cash and a space for us to talk and hang. Because the truck is kinda ugly and we are rebuilding the engine and mechanicals first our slogan has become something along the lines of "Focus on beautifying the inside before you pay attention to the outside". This little truck project is turning into something bigger than i anticipated for myself and some local fellas. Had a guy start a gofundme page and everything. Thanks for the support! I Appreciate that.

[FRODONKY]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/87-92-MITSUBISHI-PICKUP-DODGE-RAM-50-D50-FRONT-BUMPER-CENTER-BAR-END-CAP-BLK-3P-/200810557491


hey do you guys think this would fit my 1st gen 86? the dimensions look the same. Anyone have any input or opinions?

[geezer101]

Centre section looks the same but the end caps look longer than the gen 1's. Not seeing any mounting holes but that's nothing a drill won't fix.

[FRODONKY]

Ok sweet. Well my end caps are just fine but the middle section is all bashed in, you can see it in the pictures above. I think ill buy it and give it a shot. Thank you!!!

[ragragtimetime]

what's the history on this truck?(it used to live in a cold climate)....I see a block heater & what appears to be an aftermarket bracket (maybe for a snowplow hydraulic pump set-up) in front of the distributor (my brother had a plow on his 2nd gen), also see a relay mounted to the fender well below the coil.
OH! & before I forget here is the rockauto.com discount link:
http://www.mightyram50.net/vbulletin/showthread.php/1808-RockAuto-Discount-Code-Thread

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Have you thought about cutting the fenders like this: http://www.mightyram50.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=12978&d=1423184549&thumb=1 (http://www.mightyram50.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=12978&d=1423184549)http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/attachments/imageuploadedbytapatalk1347252064-470749-jpg.122002/ because if you plan on keeping the current tire/rim combo stock fenders will not fit.

I also see the fresh air duct MD030810 is missing:
http://www.group1autoparts.com/dodge/ram-50/md030810/1984-year/sport-trim/2-6l-l4-gas-engine/engine-cat/air-inlet-scat/?part_name=duct

you can probably get crafty & make one (otherwise the carb is sucking in hot instead of cold air slightly decreasing performance/mpg). also the center hold down is missing from the carburetor so it is directly sucking in dust/etc & i'm guessing the air "cover" MD604881 must be vibrating.

the front bumper has seen better days...I can't tell from the pic if it is worth saving, but I was able to remove a smaller "smack" by placing the front bumper face down on a heavy blanket (so as not to scratch it) in the garage & place a (slightly modified) 2x6 on the back side where I applied downward pressure using my backhoe (I know I know not everyone has a backhoe in their pocket but if you have access to 1 it was a super easy quick fix).

The ignition wires appear to be recent but I don't like how they are touching other wires & metal components (like underside of the vibrating air intake...over time the outer coating will wear thin & arcing of electricity will occur & cause misfires/hard starting)

the hood scoop is awesome (would like to see some pics how it was attached) & interior pics!

[geezer101]

I was just looking at the engine bay pic and noticed the charcoal can in the front corner of the engine bay where the air intake duct is meant to go (?). I would be thinking the same as RT in regards to modified fenders. The bottom corners look like they'd get mashed by those huge wheels without too much trouble. It is a beast! :grin:

[FRODONKY]

Hey guys! Well the history as far as i know is its pretty much always been in Texas, now i could be wrong and maybe it spent a LITTLE time elsewhere but im not 100% on the whole back story. This truck was used by a friend of mines dad as a farm truck for a long time. it was just used to drive around on the farm and to go hunting etc. with. Basically just a toy to ride around in. As for the bracket, theres a towing kit on this truck and i think it used to have a wench attached to it somewhere.
You know i never even thought of just trimming the fenders back a little, the rest of the fender is just fine its just behind the tire its pushed in a little to accommodate the tires. Thats a great idea! thank you for that.

Now here is where you guys will laugh at me. Just remember that im new to working on vehicles and terminology. I have no idea what a charcoal can is or what youre talking about. I can change oil and tires and thats about the extent of my knowledge. Let me describe as best i can how the truck was given to me....

The truck was beat to crap, the ENTIRE engine bay was black and caked in mud and had sticks in it. The picture of the engine bay you see here is after parts were taken out of it and cleaned a bit so its not all there in this photo. Also they had 2 different push start buttons hot wired into the cab that ran to the starter and something else and the entire engine bay was just COVERED in random wires hooked all over the place to all kinds of random crap dangling around. My buddy who owns the shop its sitting at has taken most of that crap out but hes been having to trace wires and pull stuff out and figure out just exactly what kind of ghetto rigging they did to it. Seriously this truck was in disarray when i got it, the previous owners really didn't give a crap about it and just rigged stuff up for whatever reason. I do know they replaced the oil pump and ignition i think and a couple things on it but didn't do a very good job at it. I know it still looks like crap in the engine bay but it looks WAY different than when i first got it. I think i have a picture somewhere of it when i first got it ill try and post that when i find it.

Yes the hood is one thing i REALLY liked about it, it looks pretty sweet. Im actually responding to this at work right now and its dark out, but tomorrow ill go up to the shop and get some photos of the hood and the interior and ill try and get a few betters photos of it over all and post them.

You guys are awesome thank you for tossing out ideas and talking to me about it, its cool having some folks brains to pick. Im a complete newbie at this. Ive actually got quite a few new parts on order for the truck and once my friend gets to it here in a few days maybe next week we are ripping the engine out and sending it to the machine shop to be cleaned and bored and rebuilt, im pretty much overhauling the entire thing from brake systems to transmission to engine/motor. Im just in the beginning stages of it so just waiting on parts and whatnot.

[FRODONKY]

Was also looking at sticking some headers on it, that work out pretty well on these? Any suggestions on which brand/type?

[geezer101]

Was also looking at sticking some headers on it, that work out pretty well on these? Any suggestions on which brand/type?

Hell yes. And add an exhaust system to it - 2 1/4" to get it breathing. These engines are held back by gas flow so anything you can do to improve that will give it some extra usable muscle. I can see a Weber carb in your future... :grin:

[FRODONKY]

Haha ok sweet deal, Yeah ive actually already got the Weber :D just sitting in the box until i get the engone taken apart and cleaned and back from the machine shop before i put it on. pretty much refurbing and buying new parts for the entire engine. itll be a new truck by the time im done! :D updates will be slow until i start getting the parts back and such. Ive got the Weber, new power steering pump/gear, entire rebuild kit, new pistons .40 over, new timing kit, new filter kit, starter, ignition, radiator, in the process of rebuilding the tranny, new battery and more. Its just a waiting game but once i have it all itll be put back together pretty quick! im pretty excited about it. Going to get some pictures of more of the truck tomorrow, the interior looks like crap, thats going to be a big job too i think.

[geezer101]

Interiors aren't that bigger challenge. The innards of the gen 1 cabs are simple in construction and with a bit of lateral thinking you can pull off big transformations on a beans and bread budget. Carpet is crap? The floor pans have shallow transmission tunnels like most FWD cars - measure, trim and tweak it to fit. Sports seats are a tape measure, drill, and a handful of nuts and bolts away. Door cards and kick panels are easy to make from MDF panel board - you can shape it with steam too. Guys here have made all sorts of custom interior quick fixes on the cheap (me included). You can use literally any door grab handle by drilling new mount holes and buying a pack of nylon lugs to anchor them to. Spray glue and vinyl colour sprays are easy to use and cheap.

[FRODONKY]

Right on! thats good news lol. I guess my issue with some of that is im not exactly a handy man, in fact the only tools i own are the socket set and screwdriver set in the trunk of my car. I have no idea how to do any of what you just suggested haha. Im still learning stuff and have been having to use the tools and what little room my buddy lets me use at his shop, but hey Google is a good friend right?! :D and once im done with making it run great ill have more time to learn how to fabricate things for it. My main focus the last few weeks has been the vroom vroom part. Just the few weeks ive been working on this thing and spending time with some guys and my buddy has been a great learning experience, the more time i spend with this truck doing this kind of thing the more i enjoy it. Also you guys ive met on this website have been a TREMENDOUS help suggesting ideas and helping me pick the right parts. Whenever we Organize a meet up with everyone the first round is on me! :thumbup:

[geezer101]

Bare minimum of tools you'll need are a drill, jigsaw, tape measure, handyman knife and a marker/pencil (you'll need screwdrivers and a ratchet set to pull the truck apart). If you can trace, then you can make templates out of cardboard and it's a zero buck material. Once you got all the holes and edges right you can transfer everything to the MDF panel board and start cutting/drilling. Fitting seats from another car is a little more complicated but as I mentioned earlier, the floor pans in these trucks are nice and flat. I think there are straight swap options from the Montero Sports but I'm not 100% on that.
Just cleaning the hell out of the inside of the cab goes a long way and they are easy to strip out and put back in. :thumbup:

[FRODONKY]

Well hell that doesnt sound too bad. Sounds fairly simple actually and cheap! I just got back with some pictures. Im uploading them by email at the moment. Ill have them up here shortly!

[FRODONKY]

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RT you had said you want to see the scoop ad how its attached, it looks like its basically screwed in from the bottom. Ghetto status!

[FRODONKY]

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Here are pictures of the doors, first 3 are the driver side, others are passenger.

[FRODONKY]

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Here is the dash, some carpet issues, center console, Glove box is broken, i had to wedge it shut to get it to stay.
Some of the parts look fairly decent and in alright condition

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heres a couple random pictures, the front grill is cracked in the middle and a couple brackets are broken, need a new one, RT you said youve got one right? then there are the 2 fenders where they pushed them in for the tires, but i think i ca shave them down like you said and salvage them. The other pictures are the valance? its the bashed up plastic piece by the heater plug, and yes thats a power steering leak, ive got a new one to replace it ;-p

[ragragtimetime]

even the steering stabilizer mount got whacked....but fear not, the forum is here to help. yes I have grill, various lever knobs (I believe I may have all), door sills (same color interior too from the 86 donor), fuse block cover, matching mirror for drivers side, interior pieces (that would color match for above the rear slider), door mechanism hardware, headlamp housing (looks like something bent?), etc... the original color of this was red?, then received a blue door? you can have rockauto notify you when they have a valance in stock:

http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=699795&cc=1206470&jsn=406

& best to secure your investment with a new latch ie- Dorman 76989 Sliding rear Window Latch

[ragragtimetime]

& I have a removable sunroof available if interested

[ragragtimetime]

& I have an undercarriage "skid pan" the truck is missing

[FRODONKY]

Oh man thatd be great! I could use pretty much all of that, As far as the original color i cant be 100% sure, i think it was red but there is red, blue and green paint all over the truck so i really have no idea. The engine compartment is red so i assume it was red but even in the engine compartment theres traces of green around the red paint. As far as the headlights, i dont think its bent, the grill and the light bar under the grill are bent all to crap and it makes it look cockeyed but just from looking at it from the inside it looks ok but again i dont know shit from shineola so i could be wrong. But YES! id be happy to purchase whatever pieces you have that i could use, i dont have loads of cash laying around to buy it all at once if you wouldnt mind me buying a few at a time, i can explain my financial stuff in a PM a little better. Also i would love to see a pic of the sunroof when you get a chance, that sounds pretty cool!

Also the interior color is not a huge issue to me, i will eventually have it custom made but for the time being i just want it to not look rotten! lol

[geezer101]

If it wasn't for that monster split over the glove box, I would've said your dash pad was salvageable. Smaller splits can be cut out and filled with expanding foam and then wrapped in vinyl. Yeah, this poor truck has been beat on badly... Glad you haven't thrown it in the too hard basket FRODONKY, It's gonna come together nicely.
...and RRTT, you're a legend for offering up parts to get this D-50 back in shape :clap:

[FRODONKY]

Well i found an entire dash pad for cheap so im going to scoop that up and replace it. This truck has been beat to crap but im going to bring her back to life! itll take a little time but im putting everything ive got into it. And yes RT i really appreciate you offering parts and helping piece this monster back together! Plus a lot of the Vets that have been coming around helping have said its helping them by giving them something to do and giving them projects to think about rather than dwelling on other things. This little truck is destined for awesome things! :D I really do appreciate you guys showing support and offering help and info with stuff. Coolest crew of people for sure! :rockon:

[ragragtimetime]

If it wasn't for that monster split over the glove box, I would've said your dash pad was salvageable. Smaller splits can be cut out and filled with expanding foam and then wrapped in vinyl. Yeah, this poor truck has been beat on badly... Glad you haven't thrown it in the too hard basket FRODONKY, It's gonna come together nicely.
...and RRTT, you're a legend for offering up parts to get this D-50 back in shape :clap:

Thanks geezer101! gotta keep them alive...


~http://www.mightyram50.net/vbulletin/showthread.php/3341-old-parts-live-o

[ragragtimetime]

Oh man thatd be great! I could use pretty much all of that, As far as the original color i cant be 100% sure, i think it was red but there is red, blue and green paint all over the truck so i really have no idea. The engine compartment is red so i assume it was red but even in the engine compartment theres traces of green around the red paint. As far as the headlights, i dont think its bent, the grill and the light bar under the grill are bent all to crap and it makes it look cockeyed but just from looking at it from the inside it looks ok but again i dont know shit from shineola so i could be wrong. But YES! id be happy to purchase whatever pieces you have that i could use, i dont have loads of cash laying around to buy it all at once if you wouldnt mind me buying a few at a time, i can explain my financial stuff in a PM a little better. Also i would love to see a pic of the sunroof when you get a chance, that sounds pretty cool!

Also the interior color is not a huge issue to me, i will eventually have it custom made but for the time being i just want it to not look rotten! lol
the sunroof is an sfc (later purchased by cr Laurence)

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/sfc-sunroof

http://www.mightyram50.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=9278&d=1397526659 (http://www.mightyram50.net/vbulletin/album.php?albumid=305&attachmentid=9130)

I also have the cool shade & the air deflector. I purchased the cool shade to prevent the light (emitting from the rollbar) entering the cab.

[FRODONKY]

I would Love to have one of those! That would be an awesome addition to it for sure!

[ragragtimetime]

& I have the "white plastic clip" & the "black rubber rest" for the hood prop (they go in the empty squares on the sides of the hood catch)http://www.mightyram50.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=15723&d=1455398060

[FRODONKY]

Ill take it! man weve got quite a list of things going haha. Hopefully you can cut me a deal buying all these parts :D i actually just now bought a new bumper. Now just need the grill and will have that part taken care of.

[ragragtimetime]

& I have original equipment cigarette lighter

[ragragtimetime]

& have bolts for that new bumper....ok I'm gonna stop...well...maybe just a few more comments.:P

[FRODONKY]

hahaha its all good man! Im down for original nic-nacs, bolts etc.

This list just keeps getting bigger and bigger lol.

[camoit]

Centre section looks the same but the end caps look longer than the gen 1's. Not seeing any mounting holes but that's nothing a drill won't fix.

Thats a 2nd gen.

Also can see it was crashed on the side where the door is blue.
Non matching color parts and missing decals and stickers are a dead ringer for that.

[FRODONKY]

Oh yeah i wouldn't be surprised if it had been smashed or wrecked at one point (or 2 points for that matter!) This wasnt exactly a garage kept keepsake :D itll be nice once im done with it hopefully!