View Full Version : Newbie here. - 1981 L200 1st gen Restoration
Mechanic
10-08-2017, 10:06 PM
Hi everyone!
My name is Nacho (shorten for Ignacio) and i'm next to acquire a 1981 mitsubishi L200.
The story goes like this. I drive a 2007 VW gol, but i have to sell it in order to buy my own house (oportunity has come so bye bye rent). So i was looking to buy a cheaper car to keep a mean of transportation. My dad is a mechanic and i've always been around cars. He bought this truck some time ago to help my uncle (he had to sell his car due to medical issues). The L200 first came with the camshaft broken, he repaired and the truck was ready to use. My uncle now is unable to drive due his condition so the truck is kept in my late grandfather's garage. Last weekend we went to that house, wich is located in a town about 80 km from my home city.
The truck's body is not in the best shape, but it has all the original paintjob. Seats and door panels are in really good shape and the engine is running wonderfully.
As it was in my grandfathers town, i've never lay eyes on it until this last weekend. It was love at fist sight. Can't wait to next weekend to see her again, clean her and start to see whats going on.
Leave you some pics i took... There are not the best but... I'll keep posting as long the project gets in motion...
It will be a loooong time to leave her like i imagine, cause with all this plans i dont have a lot of extra money to spend but... Let's see what we can do.
Leave you some pics...
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Mechanic
10-08-2017, 10:20 PM
leave you some more pics!
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OffWhite50
10-08-2017, 11:09 PM
Keep us updated Mechanic, I know i want to see more pictures of this interesting little truck! Welcome to the site, cheers from NorCal :thumbup:
geezer101
10-09-2017, 01:14 AM
Hi and welcome to mightyram. Your L200 has had a tough life but it looks like most of the damage isn't bad. Hopefully you can find some good parts from wrecks. Do you know what engine your L200 has?
Mechanic
10-09-2017, 01:41 AM
[QUOTE=geezer101;57601]Hi and welcome to mightyram. Your L200 has had a tough life but it looks like most of the damage isn't bad. Hopefully you can find some good parts from wrecks. Do you know what engine your L200 has?[/QUOT
Hi guys, and thanks for the warm welcome!
The engine is a 1.6 L - 4 cylinder 4G32. I have a long term idea to swap it for a 2.0 4G63 T. But that's not gonna happen in a while.
The truck luckily doesn't have any structural damage as never was involved in any crash whatsoever and the mileage is relatively low (185500 kms aprox since factory release), but the previous owner got the engine broken and since here in my country the aftermarket parts for this truck are pretty impossible to get, this little fellow spend 8 years rotting below a tree waiting to be rescued... And here we are!
Let's see what we can do, I was searching through ebay and saw that there are some parts available...
Needing right now:
The two dual-coloured front bumper turning lights
The two tail light lenses.
The two window belt mouldings.
This grill is impossible so i guess im going to have to fix it.
The main problem that the truck has is the floors, they are pretty rusted out but nothing impossible to fix.
I'll keep the updates going as long as the proyect goes forward!
geezer101
10-09-2017, 03:01 PM
There are aftermarket tail light lenses available from Thailand - they are cheap but not the greatest quality (the lenses don't seal very well and they tend to fade but they will make your truck legal to drive. You can still get genuine lenses but they are hard to find and are expensive! I haven't looked for the front lights but I think they should also be available from Thailand. The door glass scraper rubbers are the same as the earlier small Ford and Mazda B series trucks so you can source them used, the added bonus is they use plastic clips instead of the metal ones and are easy to get. Dual round grilles are not easy to find but they do come up from time to time. The biggest problem is how big they are - shipping is not cheap. I was surprised your truck is running the 1.6 engine. The 4G63 will give the truck that extra power it really needs, if you can find a later truck with the 5 speed transmission as well it will be a good improvement. I have been building an L200 as well and ran into similar problems with finding parts (mine has the 4" x 6" headlights like the US models) and I ended up buying a complete wreck to salvage parts from. Keep us posted on your progress :thumbup:
Mechanic
10-09-2017, 10:54 PM
Thanks geezer101. Great info! Didn't know about the door glass scraper rubbers!
Yes, sadly the engine is not the most powerful one but it will do the job for now. You'll be really surprised how damn expensive is here to swap an engine. In chile, for example, a guy were selling a 4g63 with the complete fuel injection sistem, the 4wd 5th gear box and all the original wiring complete for just the equivalent to u$s 1400. Here only a peeled block with no papers whatsoever, only the block (no pistons, no crankshaft, no head cylinder, no gearbox, nothing) u$s 900. And it has no papers so it can be destined only to drag racing or any other non-regulated motorsport, like some rally leagues.
However i'm keeping my hopes up to get my hands on one of those engines sometimes. But first things first. Now im focused to recovering the truck from his actual state so i can use it to drive it on daily bases.
Im guessing next weekend i'm going to do some more work on it. Probably washing the engine and start to dissasemble some parts to see whats going on.
Keeping you posted!
Thanks again!
geezer101
10-10-2017, 06:15 AM
I first learned about engines with the 4G32. They were in the early front wheel drive Mitsubishi R series Colt made from 79-89 and Galants and Lancers made through the 1970's. You can make them run very smooth by getting rid of the anti pollution stuff and port matching the heads to the inlet manifolds. A tip for cleaning an engine bay - use non caustic oven cleaner. It is cleaner to work with than spray on degreaser and it works a lot better. Spray it on, work it with a paint brush and hose it off. It would take a few cans of degreaser to get a really dirty engine clean but one can of oven cleaner will do the job and not leave a mess all over your driveway.
tortron
10-10-2017, 12:07 PM
looks pretty good for an old truck over there, They get used like they should on the caminos de tierra
what area are you from?
we can get the front lenses fairly cheaply here in NZ but i think they are just the thai reproductions. i saw a used twin light grill for sale the other day but was over $100
Mechanic
10-10-2017, 09:12 PM
Hi tortron!
I'm from Rosario, a city located in Santa Fe province, Argentina.
I'm just about to lose mi hopes on getting genuine tail lights, y saw some complete aftermarkets lights for sale and, also, only the lenses... I don't know which option to choose, if just buying the lenses or the complete tail light. Both are from thailand. What do you think?
Also i'm looking for this model's front bumper turn lights. They are dual-coloured (orange-white) orange for turn light signal and white for position lights.
The only ones that i could find on ebay was from a guy from Australia but he wouldn't ship them to Argentina. So i'm stuck with these too.
If you have any suggestions i'll be very grateful.
Thanks
Law Dog
10-10-2017, 09:12 PM
Welcome will be interesting seeing how this comes out!
Mechanic
10-10-2017, 09:26 PM
looks pretty good for an old truck over there, They get used like they should on the caminos de tierra
what area are you from?
we can get the front lenses fairly cheaply here in NZ but i think they are just the thai reproductions. i saw a used twin light grill for sale the other day but was over $100
Hi tortron!
I'm from Rosario, a city located in Santa Fe province, Argentina.
I'm just about to lose mi hopes on getting genuine tail lights, y saw some complete aftermarkets lights for sale and, also, only the lenses... I don't know which option to choose, if just buying the lenses or the complete tail light. Both are from thailand. What do you think?
Also i'm looking for this model's front bumper turn lights. They are dual-coloured (orange-white) orange for turn light signal and white for position lights.
The only ones that i could find on ebay was from a guy from Australia but he wouldn't ship them to Argentina. So i'm stuck with these too.
If you have any suggestions i'll be very grateful.
Thanks
Mechanic
10-10-2017, 09:27 PM
Welcome will be interesting seeing how this comes out!
:)) Thank you!
Mechanic
10-10-2017, 09:43 PM
In the midtime, if you allow me, i'd like to show you guys my previous Project.
He was a '96 VW Gol that i've restored from scratch. I sold HIM in last december buy he was 11 years with me.
Since this is a Mitsubishi / Dodge, etc. fórum, i'm only going to post two pics to show you only the before / after.
If the moderators consider this post to be out of place, please be free to delete it.
Thanks!
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tortron
10-11-2017, 12:24 PM
i recently got a pair of replacement 2nd gen housings and lenses.
my advice is to keep the original housings if possible, the new ones are ever so slightly incorrect and dont fit nicely on the body, they are also thinner plastic. The wiring plug was all wrong so i had to depin it and put the wires back in the correct positions, the earth wires for the bulbs were simply tucked into where the bulbs go (the original is soldered onto the bulb housing) and none of the connectors are sealed (the originals are sealed on the backs of the bulbs), Also there was no gasket included for between the lens and housing so water would get inside easily.
All that can be improved with a little work however.
The lenses are about 1/3 the thickness of the original ones. i have had them on the truck for nearly 6 months and they seem ok otherwise.
I have seen those front lenses for sale over here, if i see them again i will ask about them for you
geezer101
10-11-2017, 03:50 PM
THAT is one serious restoration project. It probably would've ended up in a scrap yard anywhere else. You definitely have the skills to fix the L200 if you can restore a Golf that badly beat up...
Mechanic
10-12-2017, 05:55 AM
Ok Tortron I'll follow your advice by keeping the genuine housings! Thanks for all the info!
Thank you very much for your words geezer. Cars are my passion and for me it's like a hobbie, so i try to take my time in every detail. The car that i showed wasn't a VW Golf, it was a VW gol (without the final F). It is a car designed and manufactured in Brazil, and it was only sold in latin america and mexico. Is a very popular model down this areas. They are just about to release the 8th generation. The white that i restored is a 2nd gen. I'm now driving a 4th gen. I invite you to google it and aldo see what it can do in drag races. Search "velopark" or "hot campinhas" on you tube and you'll see!
Cheers!
geezer101
10-12-2017, 03:12 PM
It looks similar to an earlier generation SEAT Ibiza. To bring any car back from the dead is no meat feat. Bravo :clap1: We do have a section for members with other cars here on the forum so feel free to add anything to it with your own thread.
Mechanic
01-15-2018, 10:35 AM
Updating with some info about the progress and some pics.
Engine cleaned.
Mechanic
01-15-2018, 10:43 AM
Updating with some progress info and adding some pics later.
- Engine cleaned.
- Designing and fabricating front bumper lights.
- Dissasemble of the front bumper and grill for repairs.
- Cleaned stock carb to make it run properly and made a little bit bigger the low chicler.
Mechanic
01-23-2018, 11:52 PM
Sorry i couldn't update the other day with photos like i said. Didn't have time to sit on the pc.
So as i was saying in the `revious post... I cleaned the engine (superficially only), the engine bay and the interior of the cabin.
She in a very good condition, considering the year and the fact that she has been abandoned for several years under a tree!
I managed to get my hands on a new pair of front bumper lenses! I don't know if they are original or not but it have the exact same inscriptions of the original one, they seems to have a great quality and the fit perfect... But one of the the lamps was broken, and they are a treasure hunt so, with the help of a friend (Agus Herrera) who has a 3d printer, we fabricated new ones and, in the midtime improved some aspects of the original one. Like water protection by adding weather strips to the lamp holders.
I'm starting to think about restoring her from the ground up... with some evil in her - 4g63 16v dohc swap :cool:
She's in really good condition, considering the model year and the fact that she has been abandoned under a tree
for years
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There's a 4g32 engine with a 4 speed tranny and the opportunity to get a 5 speed one from a 1980 lancer boxtype, also with a 4g32. Should i buy it? is there any difference (talking about gear ratio respecting the 4g63 engine) with the one that i currently have. Does anyone has any info about gear ratios of these two transmissions? which gearbox do you recommend me for this engine?
HEre the info about this engine is very rare and i'm making all the investigation via internet, fórum and stuff like that. The parts are very very difficult to get too (None eclipse's 4g63 found in any argentinian online store!!!) It would be nice to make her awd :devil2:
The other day a very cheap 4g63 8v dohc! from a 99 Mitsubishi galant grand saloon or something like that appeared... What do you think about this engine? does it worth it?.. It has the distribution on the other side so i'm thinking i won't be able to put the 16 v head on it... Evo's here are more rare than an alien in a skateboard. So imagine an Evo's cylinder head!!!, i have less opportunity than to actually see that alien... But an eclipse's engine is more likely.
I've seen many posts of people who actually did this swap succesfully without cutting the cabin... So that's great.
Let me know what you think, any suggestions, info and opinions are much apreciated.
Sorry if you don't understand something... My tech enclish sucks!
Don't bore you anymore, here are the pics.
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Interior Before... The most damaged part. Seriously need some repairs...
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Interior After.
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Cracks and heavy sun damage on the dashboard.
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Engine before - after
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Front bumper position and turning light redesigned and fabricated in black for testing, the final ones are going to be white..
Cheers!!!
Mechanic
01-24-2018, 12:01 AM
can anyone please tell me how to edit posts?
Thanks!
geezer101
01-24-2018, 05:58 AM
can anyone please tell me how to edit posts?
Thanks!
Make a donation to the board and you'll be granted special privileges like editing (plus camoit will send you a sweet bunch of laser cut mightyram50 window decals)
geezer101
01-24-2018, 06:20 AM
That rust is scary but I think you will be able to remove it without too much trouble. I'm not 100% sure the 4G63 engine will mount up to the 4G32 transmission (if you are going to build a fast truck, the transmission will need to be able to handle it) But it would work if you use the Lancer box type 5 speed with your 1.6 Did the L200's sold in Argentina come with the 4G63 single cam engine? I'd be looking for one if they are available. I think the Galant engine would be a good engine swap even though it will need a few modifications to get it to work in a RWD truck (nothing that hasn't already been done many times) If you have Hyundais and Kias in Argentina, you have a source for the twin cam heads. They are nearly identical to early Evo heads. But remember they need a cam angle sensor to run the ignition (no mechanical distributor). If you need things like light assemblies, reproduction parts are available on ebay. They won't be OEM genuine quality, but they are cheap and will get you out of trouble if you have broken lenses and housings. Nice work with 3D printing the new parking/indicator housings!
Mechanic
01-24-2018, 12:51 PM
Hi gezeer! Thanks for the answer.
My idea is to switch to electronic injection with a programmable ecu (fueltech) to run the ignition and fuel management. So mechanical distributor will be no longer in the picture. Same as the carb.
4g63 dohc, turbo injection, thats the plan. I was checking some gearboxes via internet and the mounts of the 4g32 gear seems very similar to the one that i've seen it has been used in one of this swaps. Leave you thw link if you want to check
it out:
http://www.hotrodcoffeeshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Which is the gearbox that is commonly used for this kind of swaps?
I don't know if this truck came out of factory here with a 4g63 engine. There aren't so many 1st gen L200 here neither.
All 4g63s here (that i could find recently are) sohc 8 and 16v. From galants, space wagons, or dohc from eclipses. And thats it.
Yes, we have hyundais and kias here but i don't know nothing about their motorizations. Thanks 4 the tip. Do you know in which car models i can find this heads?
geezer101
01-24-2018, 01:49 PM
You will find the twin cam engines in early generations of Hyundai and Kias as they used Mitsubishi drive trains under license. Lantra, Optima - most cars built before 1991. If you can find an early Gen 2 truck (87-89) they were optioned with G63B engines - this is where you'll get the right type of 5 speed for your build, or the Sapporo but it has to have a 'narrow' block engine to suit the G63B/4G63. I'm not sure of what early Mitsubishi coupe and sedans made it into south america but you have options. Check out this site -
http://projectzerog.com/
And this guy - Jafromobile on youtube (this guy knows his 1G and 2G engines inside out)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVpbeTobo-c
Mechanic
01-24-2018, 02:29 PM
Thank you so much man. U rock!
geezer101
01-24-2018, 11:53 PM
Thank you so much man. U rock!
Yes. Yes I do :beavisbutthead:.... :lmao:Nah dude, it's all good. Project zero G is a really good site for 1G and 2G resource info and Jafro is the guy who has written the book as he has learned by doing it himself. His engine builds are something else - you won't see many people prepare an engine or cylinder head with the same level of detail as he does. His Hyundai Lantra is one crazy machine.
Mechanic
02-04-2019, 06:02 PM
Hello again guys!
Well, things are preety slow here, but moving forward anyway.
I've just bought a 4g63 dohc 16v cylinder head! Its in really good condition but it has a few missing parts (Valve cover, one cam gear and cam rockers). Nothing serious, I'm going to complete it as long I'm moving forward through the project.
The front grill is almost finished too! That was a challenge since I had to fully reconstruct it manually and by 3D printing some sections.
I have a lot of pics of that Project but my last cell puts died so I'm still trying to recover all the data (that pics included) that there are in it.
Well, I just wanted to check in and update this thread. Leave you some pics of the head.
Any recommendations will always be gratefully received.
Cheers
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xboxrox
02-04-2019, 06:44 PM
Welcome here Mechanic; you have been blessed with a cool toy; enjoy your photos... Say, what is the red button lever (for?) under the dash left side next to the hood release lever... I really like all the older styles & features of your truck; will it still be colored yellow when you finish..?
3DMechanicL200 :)
geezer101
02-04-2019, 08:40 PM
Don't worry about the cam gears, you can buy shiny adjustable gears pretty cheap but you really need to know what you're doing with timing adjustments on these heads. The valve timing on 4G63's are critical and one goof will destroy valves and potentially the engine. That being said, the extra cam will get your engine breathing like it has desperately needed it. I'd love to do this conversion but with some big ass 40mm bike carbs and a bespoke set of headers. Mitsubishi did do an old school twin cam engine on PHH carbs but not only are they rare but damned hard to fix if you are unfortunate enough to had a mechanical problem. Don't even mention the HKS aftermarket head unless you have bottomless pockets... Keep us up to date on he swap :thumbup:
Mechanic
02-05-2019, 06:54 AM
Welcome here Mechanic; you have been blessed with a cool toy; enjoy your photos... Say, what is the red button lever (for?) under the dash left side next to the hood release lever... I really like all the older styles & features of your truck; will it still be colored yellow when you finish..?
3DMechanicL200 :)
Hi! Thanks again for the warm welcome! That red lever that you see down there is a general current breaker, it leaves the truck without electrical power (same as if you unplugged the battery). About the color... to be honest yellow isn't my favorite, but is the original color of the truck wich was never repainted, so it has all the oem decals and wire brackets still pasted on the engine bay wich has no dents or rust, and the paintjob there is great. I was thinking about repaint it white, but i don't want to lose all those cool aspects that it still preserve until this day. Eventually, i'm going to restore the body with a new paintjob but, in answer to your question yes, i'm going to keep it yellow :) It may seem a stupid way to keep a "non conventional" color like this, but i'm preety nostalgic about those things and therefore i learned to be in peace with that screaming yellow (though i'll probably get a Little less intense yellow the day i'll buy the Paint).
3DMechanicL200 :grin:
Mechanic
02-05-2019, 07:47 AM
Don't worry about the cam gears, you can buy shiny adjustable gears pretty cheap but you really need to know what you're doing with timing adjustments on these heads. The valve timing on 4G63's are critical and one goof will destroy valves and potentially the engine. That being said, the extra cam will get your engine breathing like it has desperately needed it. I'd love to do this conversion but with some big ass 40mm bike carbs and a bespoke set of headers. Mitsubishi did do an old school twin cam engine on PHH carbs but not only are they rare but damned hard to fix if you are unfortunate enough to had a mechanical problem. Don't even mention the HKS aftermarket head unless you have bottomless pockets... Keep us up to date on he swap :thumbup:
Hi again geezer! Yes! though i'd been around engines almost all my life, this one is totally new for me, so i intend to gather all the info i can before starting and be really thorough when putting toghether all the parts, specially the timing belt! Thanks for the heads up!
My father has some 45-45 dcoe weber carbs to put in, so i think i'm going to ask him to lend me a pair to fire the engine up at first, but the goal is to upgrade to fuel injection in one 2nd stage. I want to put a turbo in so i think that an injection managing is more simple and reliable than a carburetor. Love carbs though, specially that ones cause they have a lot of history in his days as drag racing tuner.
Mi younger brother is a freaking awesome mechanical engineer (all the brain-gen of the family went there), he is in the railroad business and made some really successfull repowering work on several locomotives. Several night ago we talked about the idea of designing our own ecu. Hahaha that is gonna take some serious time though!!! if we ever manage to achieve it, is a really ambiciuos project but this is for having fun, so, is there a better way than to do it with your little bro? i don't think so.
I didn't know about this dohc carb fueled head from old mitsubishis that you mention, but here the parts are really hard to find! (1 year to find this head, so picture that) i see YouTube vids about guys who buy this head for just 49 bucks, and here that is insanelly unreal, i was asked to pay 500 for a peeled block, wtf? but looking and searching things eventually appear, so... i have to be patient.
Thanks again for the good vibes and all the info. you're the best!
Cheers!
Mechanic
02-05-2019, 08:00 AM
Quick questions!
The 2 litre 8 valve that came in late '70s or '80s sapporo/ galants is 88 mm. bore right? and the eclipse block is 85? Is this info accurate?
What about the crankshaft? is the 4g32 one compatible with the sapporo/ galant block. is the 6 bolt one? Lots of options! which one do you recommend.
I do not intend to gather 1000 hp or nothing like that, but i don't want to be limited either if i want to make things a little bit interesting in the future.
Should i get a sapporo/ galant block or an eclipse one?
Well, it wasn't quick after all. LOL
geezer101
02-05-2019, 11:14 AM
The old 2.0 was the 4G52 engine which was the same block design as the 4G54 engine but smaller bore. It had a different bore and stroke to the G63B engine. You are going to need the G63 stuff from mid 80's to early 90's before the crank went to a 7 bolt design which was used and borrowed all over the place (plenty of FWD cars had them including Hyundai and Kia who used Mitsubishi engines under license) The support for this platform makes it a prime candidate for building boost if turbos are your thing but there is some assing around to convert it to RWD. If you can find the intake off an early Kia Optima, the intake direction can be swapped to forward facing on the 4G63 head. The 4G63 swap has been done on a regular basis and there is s huge amount of info on the process on various sites. As for the 45DCOE's, they are not road car friendly. Only really work when the pedal is mashed to the floor and need a relatively aggressive cam to make them go as well.
My plan was to make a manifold from either a chop and weld approach or see someone about going new school and having a new one prototyped on a 3D printer before being cast in alloy. Bike carbs run rings around DCOE's for all round performance - power delivery, tuning and economy and can be had a lot cheaper than one set of DCOE's but the catch is a custom manifold.
Mechanic
02-05-2019, 11:33 AM
All true about those 45 dcoe's, maybe putting just one for starters since i already have them. Not a bad idea at all about putting bike carbs, didn't know they were that versatile and reliable. Thanks again geezer for the info about the cranks. Now that you told me the names of that old engines (4g52 / 54) yes! It rings a bell. There are some of them here and there but, as you said, they are very rare and hard to get, almost here at least.
Mechanic
02-05-2019, 11:40 AM
There is a 6 bolt crankshaft on sale for 6000 pesos (150 dollars). But i can't buy it just yet, (out of money with the purchase of the head). :lmao:
geezer101
02-06-2019, 02:34 PM
I was a regular poster on another Mitsubishi site and one of the members had done bike carbs on a 4G54. A quick youtube vid of it running 40mm bike carbs -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFunG5Ku-fI
Mechanic
02-06-2019, 10:48 PM
I was a regular poster on another Mitsubishi site and one of the members had done bike carbs on a 4G54. A quick youtube vid of it running 40mm bike carbs -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFunG5Ku-fI
Niiiice
geezer101
02-06-2019, 11:56 PM
I think this was a good start for a set up but was rough and needed a plenum and remote air intake box. The member (supersan811) admitted that his manifold was ugly but functional. There is another video of it on the road and it goes like a bullet and sounds like a tuned Euro sports car (it's a Triton which is the Oz equivalent of a Gen 2 MM)
Mechanic
02-07-2019, 09:24 PM
I think this was a good start for a set up but was rough and needed a plenum and remote air intake box. The member (supersan811) admitted that his manifold was ugly but functional. There is another video of it on the road and it goes like a bullet and sounds like a tuned Euro sports car (it's a Triton which is the Oz equivalent of a Gen 2 MM)
This afternoon i had the vague idea to keep the 4g32 with 4 40 mm bike carbs (like you suggested me) and some light tune (port polishing and a fine tune up) and keep the 4g63 apart, to swap it into a colt... It's an option.. colts here are cheap. What do you think? This way i end with a sporty truck for the daily drive and a lightweight 2 litre colt to have fun on weekends... Just a thought. What do you think?
geezer101
02-08-2019, 03:37 AM
Now I built a FWD Colt for a first 'real' project build. It was an auto (ok not a great start for a build platform) but I did get a cheap 1.8 Cyclone engine that bolted straight up to the lacklustre 3 speed auto - and it went like a box of hammers. Totally changed the torque curve and the auto seemed more willing to do it's thing. It torque steered like a goat on meth and humiliated most of the local Nissan owners club. I loved this demented contraption. The 2.0 would've definitely been my next weapon of choice but I'd have to go manual 5 speed if I ever got another chance to take this route and bike carbs would have to make it onto the engine just for the added fear factor.
Mechanic
02-10-2019, 07:42 PM
:)) hahaha
Mechanic
02-12-2019, 11:16 PM
Good night everyone! Today i recovered the data of my broken smarthphone so i have the grill's restoration process photos and i thought to share them with you, cool people.
Maybe this could be helpful for those who has the same problem that i had, and is having trouble finding this important piece which almost represent the whole "face" of the truck.
First with the help of friend who is industrial designer and specializes in 3D printing solutions, i made some tests to find wich kind of plastic i was dealing with.
For that i had to cut a piece of the grill. We determine that it was ABS or some variety of it (it disolves in acetone, it doesn't float in water and makes an orange flame with really black smoke when you burn it).
At first the grill was like this:
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As you can see, the lower lip was broken and twisted everywhere... So i cut it off with a dremel tool.
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It had cracks everywhere. This are just some of them.
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I sanded all the cracks and cutted al the uneven surfices with the dremel.
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Then i started soldering all the cracks and filling the smaller missing sections by melting ABS filament with a flat soldering iron.
Since this is the same, or at least, a very similar material which the one that the grill was fabricated, it fixes really easy and gains great strength, keeping the same flexibility of the rest of the grill, avoiding future breakages.
When done filling, dry sanded (400 grit), wet sanded (600 grit) to finish.
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More pics for other complicated sections:
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My friend copied, designed and printed the brackets and the lower lip that i'd cutted in the beginning. He did an awesome job.
Since acetone disolves this plastic you can use as glue for presenting important parts before start welding. Once done, weld and sand.
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Maybe i should done the hole by measuring it in the truck instead of copying the original one... but the truck is 80 km (50 miles) from here so... I decided to take my chances... If it doesn't match i'll correct it later.
Some of the lower lip:
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All in one piece, with no cracks and all sanded.
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Primer and wet sanded with a 1500 grit sandpaper:
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Painted with one coat of rust oleum trim and bumper matt black, re sanded and painted another coat.
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Well that's all, i hope you guys enjoyed it and find some of this info helpful.
Leave you a pic of my daily drive that i found in the phone :)
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I'll be updating as long as this thing moves along.
byeeeee!
geezer101
02-13-2019, 02:25 AM
That is excellent restoration work. I hardly ever see the MA grille'd trucks but the funny thing is they were very popular with farmers and were way more common than the regular 4x6 twin headlight trucks where I am (South Australia). Can't wait to see the grille fitted to your truck :)
Mechanic
02-13-2019, 05:33 AM
Hahaha yes, here this truck is a very rare example, but the ones that you eventually see are twin rounds or single square ones. I don't remember seeing a 4x6 grilled over this areas. The truck itself (the 1st gen ones only) are really hard to find. And the ones that you cross are all devastated.
Mechanic
02-13-2019, 11:44 AM
So i have a little time between dutyes and thought about sharing some pics about the "renovation" of the tail lights....
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It was dark when i installed them so i dont have a better photo tha that one...
xboxrox
01-02-2020, 01:33 PM
Hi Mechanic, you still fixing your truck..?
ostlar
03-19-2020, 11:21 PM
Yeah, any update on this beautiful truck? I've got a 1985 one with a 2L 4G63 that I plan to restore.
geezer101
03-19-2020, 11:53 PM
This thread has gone quiet along with the original poster. Never know, they may make a return with a huge update...
ostlar
06-10-2022, 02:54 AM
I see that I've discovered this thread before..
My L200 restoration haven't gone far other than fixing window seals, exhaust, anti-roll bushings and regular maintenance. It went straight through MOT with no issues!
I've also moved which means I now have two garages for three cars, so my '91 Galant GTi, '85 L200 and '86 Mazda 323 are all safe indoors. No more rusting in the rain! The Mazda is being sold atm, and the GTi + L200 are ongoing projects. I need more money and free time, heh.
xboxrox
06-10-2022, 04:55 AM
I see that I've discovered this thread before..
My L200 restoration haven't gone far other than fixing window seals, exhaust, anti-roll bushings and regular maintenance. It went straight through MOT with no issues!
I've also moved which means I now have two garages for three cars, so my '91 Galant GTi, '85 L200 and '86 Mazda 323 are all safe indoors. No more rusting in the rain! The Mazda is being sold atm, and the GTi + L200 are ongoing projects. I need more money and free time, heh.
Norway rust & Hawaii rust :thumbdown:
Congrats on the move ostlar ~ I miss having garages & wrecking yards but MR50 makes little truck life much fun ;^)
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