View Full Version : My '88 Ram 50 extended cab 4x4 musings
steve1814
03-01-2019, 11:02 AM
Well, I figured I would start to chronicle the work on my Ram 50 4x4 to keep track of all the things I am replacing, rebuilding, modifying, and cleaning.
I bought the ram 50 back last year sometime to use just as a pick-up , I bought it for $2,000 which was a bit high, but the body had no rust and the frame very little so I figured I was ahead of the game... at least here in the northeast where you can hear your car rust away.
The Top end
Things were OK for a while, but I noticed that the exhaust was starting to leak around the manifold and I discovered that one of the exhaust studs had snapped off and the exhaust was starting to blow out the gasket. I figured I would just pull the head off and have a machine shop extract the stud since it was broke off up inside the cylinder head. I did some reading about the MCA jet's/cracked heads and figured I would just get a non-hydraulic/no jet head from Clearwater.
Once I got the new head, I dissembled the intake manifold to have it media blasted and discovered that the threads on the thermostat outlet were stripped. The the PO rigged a "fix" by inserting a bolt through the bottom of the outlet and putting a nut on the housing. while it did work, I did notice that there was a persistent leak around the bolt and I was not happy with that. I then set out to procure a new intake housing. once located and delivered, I took the replacement intake and the valve cover over to the machine shop to have them cleaned and continued the disassembly of the original head. During the disassembly I also found that the fuel pump was blowing fuel out of the weep hole and that the plastic isolator was missing. The fuel pump was mounted directly to the head with a TON of permatex acting as a gasket - another PO "fix"... So Rockauto and I were becoming fast friends.
Once having all the parts needed to get the head ready for installation I went ahead and replaced all the sensors, gaskets and EGR stuff. What I could refurbish (nuts, bolts, brackets) I did, everything else was new.
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steve1814
03-01-2019, 11:22 AM
The Bottom End
Never one to leave anything as is, The top end was looking so nice, I decided to pull the engine out and and give it a good cleaning and re-spray. While I was at it, I decided to replace the timing chain, water pump, oil pump, alternator, and clean-up/respray the oil pan
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steve1814
03-01-2019, 11:38 AM
The Frame (so far)
Now that I had the engine out, I could see just how 30 years of crud can make things look absolutely filthy, so I pushed the truck out of the garage and bought a case of oven cleaner and went nuts. Unfortunately, I did not think to take pics of the before and after but the difference was like night and day once done.
The frame was looking a bit crusty with rust, so out with the wire wheel and naval jelly! This was very time consuming, as I went all OCD and decided to completely remove the front suspension and rebuild everything (sigh). I used Eastwood's Extreme Chassis Primer and then Chassis Paint and thought it turned out alright.
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steve1814
03-01-2019, 11:52 AM
The Suspension
So this is where I have really slowed down. Between ordering parts from MOPAR, rockauto, amazon, Ebay and overseas coupled with having difficulties with the frame bushings (next post), and going nuts with rust removal and painting, I am at a crawl. I'll just dump the photos I have so far on the suspension as they are pretty self-explanatory
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The beginning of the Front diff refresh
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steve1814
03-01-2019, 12:11 PM
Bushing woes
Since I am replacing all the rubber bits on the suspension, I figure it would be a good idea to to buy the Mitsubishi Special tool used to remove and install the rear lower A-arm bushing to make the job go easier.
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Having the FSM at hand, the removal of the old bushings using the tool was a snap. getting the new ones in.....not so much.
Procedure is to use the tool in the following configuration and apply soapy water to the bushing to ease in installation
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Well, After 4 attempts, I have the passenger side done, using up two Febest units and then going to MOOG.
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The second MOOG i used on the drivers side (in the middle in above pic) was a no-go. I just placed my 5th order for the (hopefully) last unit today. I think the problem is that I broke the spin bearing that is part of the Mitsu tool when trying to install the febest units-they were really tight and basically didnt fit. I over torqued the tool trying to get the bushing in and that cracked the bearing. I also believe the metal lip that catches the Mistu tool is of a lesser diameter on both the febest and MOOG versus the OEM and that is causing an issue as well. I'll definitely take it slow on my next attempt.
geezer101
03-01-2019, 02:13 PM
You are being very thorough which makes a big difference. The Mitsubishi bushing tool reminds me a lot of the gadget I use to cut holes in stainless steel sinks for mixer taps minus the cutting die. It's too bad it got damaged. Maybe try putting the bushes in the freezer first for a few hours to get them to shrink a little (hey, if it works...)
WarStryker13
03-01-2019, 04:03 PM
This is an excessive amount of attention to detail, and I love it.
steve1814
03-02-2019, 05:57 AM
It is a labor of love and sometimes frustration;)
steve1814
03-02-2019, 05:58 AM
The Mitsubishi bushing tool reminds me a lot of the gadget I use to cut holes in stainless steel sinks for mixer taps minus the cutting die. It's too bad it got damaged. Maybe try putting the bushes in the freezer first for a few hours to get them to shrink a little (hey, if it works...)
You are talking about a greenlee knock out punch for the sinks. I have used that tool many, many times! Wish they made one with a bigger diameter as I suck at cutting round holes.
I’m going to try the the freezer trick with the bushing, May even heat up the mount to get it to expand as well.
steve1814
03-02-2019, 11:18 AM
Front Diff work
Today I worked on getting the front diff cleaned up and primed. Had to buy a couple of new wire wheels to finish the job, but it turned out good.
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After that, it was masked up and sprayed with the first coat of primer. the Primer needs 24 hrs to dry before the top coat, so this is all I am doing today.
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steve1814
03-09-2019, 10:27 AM
Bushing update:
The new MOOG bushing came in Friday so today I installed it -no issues whatsoever.
Last night I took some 600 grit sandpaper and polished up the exterior to get rid of any high spots and to smooth it out and then popped it in the freezer to shrink it a bit. This morning, after the garage was warmed up, I also sanded the inside of the bushing mount and heated it up a little with a propane torch for about 20 seconds to let the heat radiate and expand the metal.
As I remarked earlier, my Factory Service Tool had a bearing crack on it when I was trying to install the Passenger side bushing, so I earlier this week I went to my local Ace Hardware (best place for nut & bolts and misc) and found a replacement bearing that I hoped would work. With the tool properly set up I put a little soapy water on the bushing and damn, that bushing slid into the mount as easy as pie.
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I think the prep work and the new bearing made the difference. Highly recommend this method!
steve1814
03-09-2019, 10:48 AM
The Front Diff
The Front diff is all refurbished now. I finished the painting and went on to install the new seals. The installation was pretty straightforward. I had bought a generic seal install kit which made the job easier.
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Once the CV extension was done I moved on to the diff itself
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The Diff as it sits now. I still have to work on the hardware and CV axles before I completely reassemble.
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geezer101
03-09-2019, 04:04 PM
Excellent. Everything looks nice and fresh and I'm glad the freezer trick worked for you this time around. Wish I had the resources to get my drivetrain looking this good..
steve1814
03-24-2019, 09:37 AM
The CV Joints
Started replacing the boots on the CV Joints. So far the tear down has revealed no surprises other that the cage and bearings look like they were never used. The boots weren't torn, but they were cracked from time so like everything else on this...while I am there...
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I also decided to put a 2" body lift on the truck while I was at it. I got all the pucks installed, and am presently making a couple of brackets to relocate some brake and PS cooling lines. Since the body is now further from the frame I'll also need to construct some relocation brackets for the front bumper. So far, I have just pulled the tow hook off the frame and getting it prepped for a re-spray.
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till next time.
steve1814
03-30-2019, 03:35 PM
CV Joints Pt 2
Now that the CV ends were stripped and repainted it was time to get them assembled.
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I bought the wheel side kit from Mitsubishi, and the Diff side is an aftermarket brand from Japan (very well made) that saved me a few dollars. The Mistu kit came will all the bands, clips and grease needed to do both sides of the CV Joint.
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The first part was to get the wheel side boot on and lube up the bearings. Then use the remainder to fill up the boot.
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Once that was done, it was on to the straps. The factory ones are preset so it is just a matter of bending the band over and cinching it down-super easy to do.
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With the Wheel side done it was to the Diff side. First I needed to grease up the race and bearing retainer, then reinsert the balls and grease them up, packing the assembly with more grease.
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Then on to filling the CV housing with some Grease followed by inserting the assembly into the housing and using up the rest of the grease.
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Finally the outer cover for the wheel side boot and the dust rings.
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And finished!
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Since the passenger side is basically the same, I'll forgo the step-by-set and just show the finished product when done. That's it for now.
steve1814
03-31-2019, 01:02 PM
CV Addendum
In case anyone needs the P/N's for the boots, these are what I used:
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I also started on the Passenger side- disassembled and wire wheeled. Still need to do the final masking and then primer.
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And the Final Product
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steve1814
04-07-2019, 09:39 AM
And now for something completely different:
Since I am doing boring, clean-up and replace work on the Ram 50, even I need to take a break from the mundane and fiddle with things that have a little more impact. I really didn't want to add an aftermarket radio to either the Ram 50 nor the MM since I don't drive them as much, but not having a radio that work well was out of the question. I like the look of the old Double DIN radios that Mitsu used to put in the upscale models and thought it would be nice to add one.
One day while looking for parts on eBay I came across a seller that was advertising some Mitsubishi radios that looked quite nice, brand new in fact, so I thought I'd try one out. The radio was everything it was advertised to be and looked to be NOS (new, old stock). After ensuring it worked I promptly ordered another to have one for each of my trucks. While I was buying the second one, I had an idea, so I also looked up micro BT (Bluetooth) modules and order and pair.
The Radio bezel for the Double DIN is different that the standard ones, but I was lucky in that the parts truck had the Double DIN bezel in it and I sourced another for the MM from another person on FB.
A little bit of poking around the guts of the factory radio to get the lay of the components, I was able to tie the BT module into the "CD" input on the radio and run power to the module from the radios' power bus. Everything fit internal to the radio, so if you didn't know it, the radio would look (and act) completely factory.
So, with everything soldered up I buttoned up the unit and installed it in the Mighty Max (this is my second project truck):
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geezer101
04-07-2019, 03:04 PM
That is a nice custom touch :thumbup:
xboxrox
05-31-2019, 07:12 PM
Steve, Mitsubishi might be hiring ..? ;)
Do you think Mitsubishi made a good truck or just threw a bunch of (too many) parts together..? ;]
Chargerx3
05-31-2019, 11:50 PM
Fun link. Interested in what BT module you purchased. I have an external cd unit myself I would like to do this to as well. Have a link?
steve1814
09-26-2019, 05:58 AM
Sorry for the delay-been taking a break from the truck to work on my other toys.
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here is the link for the BT module:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bluetooth-4-0-Audio-Receiver-Board-Stereo-Sound-Module-For-Car-Phone-LN-BT02-/182092055980
for those interested, I will be posting pictures of the reassembly soon.
claych
09-26-2019, 10:40 AM
^^^
Superlative idea !!
As to the other work, see post #7.
steve1814
09-27-2019, 02:32 PM
assembly and mounting of front Diff
Finally got all the components finished to assemble the front differential, Now on to assembly:
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How it looks assembled:
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Choose to fill it with synthetic GL5:
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The mounting turned out to be more of a chore than I expected, and I dropped the assembly on my wrist while trying to shoehorn it back in place. :( luckily I didn't break any bones, but my wrist has swollen and a bruise is forming - I am sure I will be in pain for a few days. But, with the help of my jack I got it back up in there and fastened down.
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I've got to work on my Suzuki Samurai this weekend, so I probably won't get back to this for a week or so.
geezer101
09-27-2019, 03:03 PM
Looks spectacular. Too bad you had to take a beating to get it back in - these things happen.
StarquestMan
10-02-2019, 01:57 PM
Wow this is looking awesome! I hope to restore mine in this level of detail someday! I like the hardware being refinished in its original color gold (yellow zinc I think is the name), what are you using to do so? I thought about using a paint product from Eastwood but have wondered if the stuff could be re-plated and for a reasonable cost etc.
geezer101
10-02-2019, 03:18 PM
Look up zinc chromate. This is something you can definitely DIY :thumbup:
steve1814
10-03-2019, 04:43 AM
this is what I use: https://www.caswellplating.com/yellow-chromate.html
claych
10-03-2019, 02:25 PM
With respects to the O/P
M.I.G. or T.I.G. welding processes/over zinc chromate ???
StarquestMan
10-03-2019, 06:30 PM
this is what I use: https://www.caswellplating.com/yellow-chromate.html
Cool! will definitely look into that!
steve1814
10-04-2019, 05:44 AM
With respects to the O/P
M.I.G. or T.I.G. welding processes/over zinc chromate ???
I am no professional welder, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn express!
Researching my welding course book (taking class while staying in said hotel) I found this tidbit:
The low boiling temperature of the zinc of the coating causes it to volatilize in the heat produced by an arc or by an oxyacetylene flame. The zinc in the gaseous state may become entrapped in the molten weld metal as it solidifies. If this occurs there will be porosity in the weld metal and if sufficient zinc is available it will cause large voids in the surface of the deposit.
The presence of the zinc in stressed welds can cause cracking and it may also cause delayed cracking due to stress corrosion. To eliminate this, the weld joint must be designed to allow the zinc vapor to completely escape from the joint. Fixturing, backing straps, etc., should be arranged to allow for the zinc to completely escape. Other ways to avoid zinc entrapment in weld metal is to use sufficient heat input when making the weld.
It is also important to secure complete and full penetration of the joint. The ultimate precaution would be to remove the zinc from the area to be welded.
When welding on galvanized steel or any coated steel, particularly those with coatings that produce noxious fumes, positive ventilation must be provided. Positive ventilation involves the use of a suction hose at the weld area. When using the gas metal arc process or the flux-cored arc process, the suction type gun nozzles should be used. Welding on zinc or other coated steels should never be done in confined areas.
For corrosion resistance of the weld it is sometimes advisable to use a corrosion-resistant weld metal. This can be done by using a bronze deposit such as a copper-zinc alloy, or a stainless steel electrode. In any case, when arc or oxyacetylene welding is used the area adjacent to the weld will lose the protective zinc coating which must be repaired.
Hope that answers your question....
claych
10-06-2019, 11:56 AM
Yes it does,
Thank You for taking the time, much appreciated!
steve1814
10-15-2019, 08:28 AM
Chuggin' along
I'm at the point where I can start putting things back on the truck. I did manage to get the truck to bump over on starting fluid, but the fuel pump still needs more priming to get the fuel into the carb. My goal is to get the truck back on its tires and everything connected so I can wheel it out of the garage to play with the engine.
The lower and upper arms installed, along with the steering and sway bar. Nothing is "bolted in place" as I want to make sure everything fits before tightening to spec.
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Renovated hub
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Brakes rebuilt. (yes, they are "ricer red" I wanted some color poking through the wheels)
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Somewhat finished test fit. I was send the wrong lower arm ball joint (they had the zerk fitting on the top instead of the side) so I am waiting for replacements.
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claych
10-15-2019, 02:17 PM
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claych
10-15-2019, 02:23 PM
Part #'s for the steering stop bolts & lock/jam nuts.
steve1814
10-15-2019, 02:44 PM
Those on my spindle are the originals, just cleaned, but:
MF431863
NUT, KNUCKLE
MB192290
BOLT, FR AXLE
MB412060
CAP, KNUCKLE STOPPER BOLT
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This is where I stopped for the day.
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claych
10-17-2019, 02:24 PM
Thanks again !
xboxrox
10-18-2019, 07:15 AM
Were any of the steering parts worn & need replacement (?) pitman arm, idler arm, tie rod ends..?
If I was Santa Clause & you didn't already have it; I would get you another 1/4 acre expansion of your property, an automotive body rotisserie, a paint booth, yada yada...
steve1814
10-18-2019, 09:10 AM
Were any of the steering parts worn & need replacement (?) pitman arm, idler arm, tie rod ends..?
If I was Santa Clause & you didn't already have it; I would get you another 1/4 acre expansion of your property, an automotive body rotisserie, a paint booth, yada yada...
All of the steering was replaced. And thank you St. Nick-it's just a hobby among many.
xboxrox
10-20-2019, 01:13 AM
:merryxmas: You made yourself a new truck steve and it looks better than factory new :thumbup: Nice work & thanks for the answers..!
B-Line
10-21-2019, 09:44 AM
Excellent project and attention to detail. You have outdone yourself. That front end looks better than new.
If you want to take it a step further and upgrade to Stainless Steel Brake Lines let me know.
H8PVMNT
04-14-2023, 09:37 PM
Very nice work. All the pics and telling the story are a great resource. Thank you!
M08Lancer89
11-05-2023, 06:08 PM
would you sell this unit
Well, I figured I would start to chronicle the work on my Ram 50 4x4 to keep track of all the things I am replacing, rebuilding, modifying, and cleaning.
I bought the ram 50 back last year sometime to use just as a pick-up , I bought it for $2,000 which was a bit high, but the body had no rust and the frame very little so I figured I was ahead of the game... at least here in the northeast where you can hear your car rust away.
The Top end
Things were OK for a while, but I noticed that the exhaust was starting to leak around the manifold and I discovered that one of the exhaust studs had snapped off and the exhaust was starting to blow out the gasket. I figured I would just pull the head off and have a machine shop extract the stud since it was broke off up inside the cylinder head. I did some reading about the MCA jet's/cracked heads and figured I would just get a non-hydraulic/no jet head from Clearwater.
Once I got the new head, I dissembled the intake manifold to have it media blasted and discovered that the threads on the thermostat outlet were stripped. The the PO rigged a "fix" by inserting a bolt through the bottom of the outlet and putting a nut on the housing. while it did work, I did notice that there was a persistent leak around the bolt and I was not happy with that. I then set out to procure a new intake housing. once located and delivered, I took the replacement intake and the valve cover over to the machine shop to have them cleaned and continued the disassembly of the original head. During the disassembly I also found that the fuel pump was blowing fuel out of the weep hole and that the plastic isolator was missing. The fuel pump was mounted directly to the head with a TON of permatex acting as a gasket - another PO "fix"... So Rockauto and I were becoming fast friends.
Once having all the parts needed to get the head ready for installation I went ahead and replaced all the sensors, gaskets and EGR stuff. What I could refurbish (nuts, bolts, brackets) I did, everything else was new.
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