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MrPaco
09-25-2019, 02:59 PM
Beautiful specimen spotted in the wild: Mitsubishi Delica Truck, 2.5d RHD 5sp 4WD
Looks pretty tall next to my truck!

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geezer101
09-25-2019, 05:29 PM
Whoa, that's a first for me - haven't seen one before :thumbup:

85Ram50
09-25-2019, 06:18 PM
There is one of them around here. I saw it at Harbor Freight last year right after or just before someone on here posted a picture of one.

tortron
09-25-2019, 08:57 PM
There's one here I see at a site I work at, it's got a wellside tray, im pretty sure it's been made from the back of a wrecked van.

FMS88
09-27-2019, 10:07 PM
You can also get a quad-cab version:

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/d/seattle-1993-mitsubishi-delica-diesel/6972190348.html

MrPaco
09-28-2019, 07:00 AM
I tracked down the owner of the Delica and it turns out it's someone I already know, he just got the truck a couple months ago and I hadn't seen it...

He loves it but says the engine is a dog, it can barely get up to highway speeds. I haven't had a chance to look at it closely so not sure exactly which engine he has, but I do know it doesn't have a turbo. My guess the engine is a 4d56, same as the quad in the craigslist ad. The seller of that truck did a swap for a456d with turbo and it's claiming a huge improvements, but he's trying to sell it so I guess you have to take that with a grain of salt.

My friend is considering installing a turbo, but I'm wondering if any of the diesel experts here have any thoughts on whether or not that will make a significant difference or not. Does it make sense to add the turbo, or should he be considering something more drastic, like a V6 swap?

geezer101
09-28-2019, 12:29 PM
V6 swapping that is going to take a donor truck and a lot of effort. A turbo diesel will not only be easier but the Delica 4x4's had it as an option so you could find specific parts to do it. He could do the upgrade on the turbo in the process and get it running strong straight off the mark.

MrPaco
09-29-2019, 05:50 AM
How much more power can be reasonably expected by adding the turbo? Is there only one turbo that will fit this engine, or are there different sizes?
My wife's car has a small turbo and I know that people upgrade by swapping it for bigger units, there are 2 or 3 bigger sizes available for that one.

geezer101
09-29-2019, 02:31 PM
A good question. I would conservatively expect a 10-15% improvement in torque. The TD05 turbo engine made 80kW, the TC04 waste gate turbo made 86kW. So the next step up turbo should put the engine in the 90-95 kW range. It's the added torque that will make the difference. It will also depend on whether or not an intercooler is going to be in the upgrade as well.

MrPaco
09-29-2019, 07:48 PM
He wants to add an intercooler, but for some reason the shop he's talking about it is trying to talk him out of it. Not sure why.
How much of an impact would and intercooler have?

claych
09-30-2019, 01:08 AM
Whoa, that's a first for me - haven't seen one before :thumbup:


A good question. I would conservatively expect a 10-15% improvement in torque. The TD05 turbo engine made 80kW, the TC04 waste gate turbo made 86kW. So the next step up turbo should put the engine in the 90-95 kW range. It's the added torque that will make the difference. It will also depend on whether or not an intercooler is going to be in the upgrade as well.
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Hmmmm.

geezer101
09-30-2019, 04:47 AM
The shop probably doesn't want to do the plumbing. There is some assing around to do a conventional vehicle but a van like a Delica has forward accessible airflow issues as far as mounting an intercooler is concerned...

We have 'Delica' imports here in Oz but I've never seen a flatbed style configured example (mostly 'space cabs' like a 4x4 off road people mover thing) This model Delica looks like it's based on our old L300 express 4x4's -

geezer101
09-30-2019, 04:48 AM
...sorry I blocked out the sun. Click on the image and view it :rolleyes:

claych
10-01-2019, 11:05 AM
^^
???image went away???

geezer101
10-01-2019, 02:08 PM
Image went bye bye :scratchheadyellow:

claych
10-02-2019, 12:03 PM
but then came back
https://www.justparts.com.au/sites/default/files/advert/1540974048_e8843093-d562-4bba-a06d-f30b9cb1164c.jpeg

StarquestMan
10-02-2019, 12:44 PM
Beautiful specimen spotted in the wild: Mitsubishi Delica Truck, 2.5d RHD 5sp 4WD
Looks pretty tall next to my truck!

Wow! that thing is a bit bigger than our trucks lol. I wouldn't have guessed so seeing it by itself.

geezer101
10-02-2019, 02:22 PM
The 4x4 vans are a weird looking contraption. When they are raised with offroad wheels they are freaking enormous - they dwarf Monteros.

xboxrox
10-02-2019, 04:55 PM
I just see a big tire in the photo -- geezer, what is the land of UPI (?) you went there to get a radiator, no..?

edit: Them Delica trucks, can they be registered to drive on public roads ?

edit edit: Mr. Paco, I used to exit the thruway at Ballston Spa to get home :thumbup:

MrPaco
10-02-2019, 06:40 PM
Keep in mind that on this truck the seats are right over the front wheel well, so the cab is really high. There is astep to get in, and you need to use it.

Geezer, I can only see a piece of the tire on that picture, and if I click on it nothing happens. What's the rest of it?
Xboxrox, where you stationed around here or are you from NY?

pennyman1
10-02-2019, 09:10 PM
the turbo will make a big difference on this truck. in fact, the intake on that NA motor is a highly desirable mod for the turbo motors, as it flows better.

geezer101
10-03-2019, 12:09 AM
Geezer, I can only see a piece of the tire on that picture, and if I click on it nothing happens. What's the rest of it?
Xboxrox, where you stationed around here or are you from NY?

You can still see it? Anyway right click on the mouse, select view image and it should turn into a normal looking image rather than my out of control billboard :rolleyes:

geezer101
10-03-2019, 12:23 AM
Great... I fix the post by changing the image and the !@#$ing thing comes back to haunt me :rolleyes:

geezer101
10-03-2019, 12:26 AM
I just see a big tire in the photo -- geezer, what is the land of UPI (?) you went there to get a radiator, no..?

edit: Them Delica trucks, can they be registered to drive on public roads ?

edit edit: Mr. Paco, I used to exit the thruway at Ballston Spa to get home :thumbup:

The land of UPI is "U-Pull-It" and yes, I did get the radiator (funnily enough from that things little 2WD brother) and yes, that monstrosity is road legal...

MrPaco
10-03-2019, 04:34 AM
You can still see it? Anyway right click on the mouse, select view image and it should turn into a normal looking image rather than my out of control billboard :rolleyes:

That worked, thanks.
That's a great looking van, would make a nice little camper

claych
10-03-2019, 01:34 PM
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MrPaco
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16# rims ?? 15# rims ?? same lug circle & hub center bore ???

MrPaco
10-03-2019, 01:57 PM
I don't know, but I'll take a look at them next time I see him.

xboxrox
10-04-2019, 07:23 AM
Xboxrox, where you stationed around here or are you from NY?

I was stationed at the Navy Nuclear Power Training Unit (NPTU) Ballston Spa; it's in West Milton... Was there for 3 years 1981, 2, 3 so cold except for the 3 month summer and black flies... I liked Upstate especially in the Fall season, $20.00 for one gallon of real maple syrup back then, mmm... We went camping & boating each summer ar Great Sacandaga Lake (sp?)

In Hawaii since 2010 :thumbup:

xboxrox
10-04-2019, 07:25 AM
The land of UPI is "U-Pull-It" and yes, I did get the radiator (funnily enough from that things little 2WD brother) and yes, that monstrosity is road legal...

UPI :grin: cool

xboxrox
10-04-2019, 07:31 AM
I see it now -- right click "open image in new tab"

It begs for a military paint scheme... ana balsa wood .50Cal on the roof :thumbup:

Giovanni89
10-04-2019, 11:22 AM
I got to ride in a Delica on my first Japan work trip. The car names there are really a riot. The door reads "Mitsubishi Delica Space Gear. Super Select 4WD with INVECS-II, Specifically Designed for all Outdoor Players" I don't remember what it said next to the Fleur De Lis. It was a 2-2.5ish liter 4 cylinder turbo diesel. An absolute dog, and it rode like a slab of concrete, but the cool factor was high. 23524

geezer101
10-04-2019, 02:21 PM
I got to ride in a Delica on my first Japan work trip....It was a 2-2.5ish liter 4 cylinder turbo diesel. An absolute dog, and it rode like a slab of concrete, but the cool factor was high.

OK, now take that, get rid of the turbo and push the forward driving position over the front axle and have really janky seats. The Gen 1 versions of these things were terrifying to ride in...

xboxrox
10-05-2019, 04:31 PM
Giovanni -- working in Japan NICE HUH :thumbup:

My 1st navy duty was a boat in Sasebo, Japan 1967

Steam locomotives were still being used & I even rode in one with a bunch of school girls going home from school -- we all got soot on our faces

Three wheel trucks were still being used & quiet a few on the road

geezer I used to get Datsun parts for my 1972 Sunny Excellent from a UPI in Yokohama

This PHOTO is exactly the same model & color Sunny that I had in Japan 4 speed stick twin side draft SW (?) carbs LOVED that CAR -- bought it slightly used $2,500.00 from another sailor going stateside & I sold it for $500.00 four years later to another sailor when I went stateside... It was a blast to drive on the newly opened Hodogoya Bypass to get from Kamiseya to Yokohama... Try buying one now, six figure price..!
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Sunny Truck https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1988-nissan-sunny/