88mitsu07-01-2005, 04:16 PM
this is where i will keep everyone posted on the progress of my mighty max
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moidsm107-01-2005, 05:54 PM
Do yourself a favor and figure out a way to move the new engine forward about 4 inches. Cutting out the firewall and loosing AC/heater really sux. I did that swap about a year and a half ago. I will be here if you need help. I am so glad this site is up.
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88mitsu07-01-2005, 06:03 PM
you are right we had to cut into the firewall to make clearance for the cam position sensor. the motor sits about 1-1.5 inches to far back so me cut a 8x8 hole in the firewall.also the a/c lines are sitting to close to the turbo so im also loosing the a/c.(the condensor is sitting where my fmic is)i am still keeping the heater lines though, i have no idea why considering i live in nc and its usually 100 degrees.
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bskater07-03-2005, 10:59 PM
I am doing this same swap in my mighty max. I am wondering if you have any tips to help me with the wiring?
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88mitsu07-04-2005, 10:40 AM
the only tip i can give you really, is make sure you get a whole uncut harness and should be just plug and play the only thing you have to worry about splicing is the ignition.
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bskater07-05-2005, 12:43 AM
Do you know if anyone sells the uncut harness?
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88mitsu07-05-2005, 08:58 AM
if you want a uncut harness you need to buy a front clip. then you can resell the transmission and other various parts that they dont strip off.
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bskater07-07-2005, 10:51 PM
How hard was it to find someone to weld the flange on the other side of the intake
manifold?
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88mitsu07-15-2005, 06:15 PM
ok so i have my truck now, back from the shop had to have it towed to my house. guy had it from 11-20-04 till 7-13-05, so i will be finishing the project myself. on rewelding the intake manifold just find some welder / fabricator and ask them. i think it may be better to just go ahead and purchase a rwd manifold. if you want i will sell you mine for 150$ plus shipping, and i will go out and purchase the rwd for 500$.
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88mitsu07-15-2005, 06:24 PM
started wiring the truck and have everything pretty much plugged in only missing a few plugs need to pick up a book to figure out what/where they go. i have decided to use the mighty max radiator because the eclipse radiator is to long and i will have no room for intercooler piping.(any of you that have the 4g63 swap are you still using the mm radiator), i set the alternator in place, along with the crank pulley, and the waterpump pulley. (i am using the v belt style pulleys for all of these i need to get bolts for all of them to there is alot of missing bolts/nuts) the waterpump is the one off the mm so i will need to stack some washers because the mount for the waterpump isnt far enough out. well i will post more as i go. went back out bolted down the shifter and did some measurements. my intercooler has a 3 inch opening the 2g elbo has a 2 1/2 and the turbo is barely a 2. so i think im going to use 2 1/2 to 3 inch couplers for the intercooler and use 2 1/2 inch piping for the whole setup.
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88mitsu07-16-2005, 02:09 PM
was able to get all the bolts i needed from lowes started making intercooler piping.
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slammitsu07-16-2005, 02:27 PM
Sounds good man keep it up.
But you do know that we have blogs on this site, so you can keep a journal there if you wanted to
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moidsm107-17-2005, 04:34 PM
If your gonna use the Mighty max radiator take it to a radiator shop and have it cleaned out. Mine was running on a few tubes and I never figured out why my 4G63 ran so hot till I had that fixed. But Yes you can use it. I placed an electric fan behind the radiator to pull air in since you will no longer have a clutch fan setup you should do this as well. Push or pull, It doesnt matter.
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moidsm107-17-2005, 04:39 PM
I want to see how you are going to get away with using the V-belt setup. I used the eclipse belts. Interesting
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88mitsu07-17-2005, 06:43 PM
what should i tell them when i bring in the raidator. also today i finished 2.5 inch piping from the throttle body to the intercooler and from the turbo to the intercooler i still need two couplings that are 2.5 to 3 inch converters for the intercooler. also i need two bolts to hold the i/c in place and i need to cut the hole for my bov and weld it to the pipe, (question should i mount it on the side with the turbo or on the side with the throttle body. ) also moidsm1 what did you do about the filter/aircan i have the 2g mas and the 1g mas im probably going to use the 1g till i get it running then rewire and mount the 2g. did you use the 1g snorkel pipe to run from the turbo to the 1g mas or did you custom make something. also the guy at the shop kept telling me i need to use the v-belt setup i think it might have something to do with using the mighty max waterpump.(i cant seem to locate the original eclipse pulley for the crank or the waterpump.) did you plug in every electrical connector from the eclipse harness or is it ok for me to not plug in everything i guess what im trying to say is if if you dont plug in the a/c things down the line in the harness wont get +/- electrical current. also what did you do about the throttle cable.
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moidsm107-19-2005, 01:49 PM
Dude, Im so pissed now. I replied with a whole page of information. The damn internet connection timed out and I lost it all. Gimme some more time and Ill answer ur questions. Damn Afghanistan internet!!
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moidsm107-21-2005, 01:44 PM
OK, Im back, U have to excuse my late replies, Im In afghanistan and I cant always get to a computer.
For the intake I used a 3 inch pipe witht the MAF. I put the BOV right after the turbo before the intercoller to route the blow off back into the intake.
- U can cut out the Eclipse AC stuff. U only need the wires that connect engine sensors to the ECU. I opened my harness and Cut and shortened up alot of stuff.
- I think I used the Mighty MAx Throttle cable. I made a bracket that connects it to the manifoldd by where the Ignition coils sit.
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88mitsu07-21-2005, 06:57 PM
well here is a picture of the i/c mounted and the i/c piping even though those weld look like crap they dont leak. i need to get 2 reducer. i almost have all the pulleys mounted for the vbelt setup. i think im going to recess the lights 2 inches and mount a bar grill in front of it.
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dtl121807-22-2005, 05:09 AM
Man, that looks good. I can't wait to be able to start on my swap. I want to try to install a stock eclipse IC as a top mount IC with a hood scoop to draw in air, and have another channel below the IC to carry air and rain around the engine so it won't just dump everything on top of the engine. From the looks of you pictures, it does look like there's room to do all that. The only hard part I see is figuring out how to plumb in to the intake, but I'll figure it out when I get to that point..
- David
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Mark_C08-02-2005, 02:35 AM
can anybody tell me if the stock clutch and flywheel setup for an 87 d50 2.0 5 spd trans would work with that motor swap?
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88mitsu08-02-2005, 05:18 PM
you have to use the 2.0 mightymax or d50 flywheel and you use the stock clutch i tried ACT performance clutch but it didnt fit even though ACT said it would, i went to autozone and bought a dynamax clutch for 159$ and thats what im using in mine. if you try using the 4g63 eclipse talon flywheel it will not fit in our transmission housing.
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tsiturbomightymax08-02-2005, 06:07 PM
Mark u would want a stronger clutch ACT most likely 6 puck clutch for the speed and launch.
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dtl121808-02-2005, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Mark_C@Aug 2 2005, 04:35 AM
[b]can anybody tell me if the stock clutch and flywheel setup for an 87 d50 2.0 5 spd trans would work with that motor swap?
Quoted post
Everything would work, but you should consider upgrading the clutch to handle the extra torque of the 4G63T.
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moidsm108-08-2005, 12:19 PM
Yes!! But it wont last long. I never knew how fast my truck really was because the clutch would always slip
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bjs84D5008-16-2005, 12:46 PM
i have an 1984 D50 with a 2.0L SOHC inline-4 engine can i change it to a DOHC or do i have to get the 2.6L and go from there. i was also going to add a T-76 garrett turbocharger off of ebay,and etc so can anyone answer this? i was going to get 2.6L anyway but i was just wonder because im selling my old engine.
brandon
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bjs84D5008-16-2005, 08:00 PM
crap you guys are talking about the 4g63 engine sry bout the confusion i now know what i can and cant do to a 2.0L d50 engine LMAO sry bout that.
brandon
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brocksdad08-24-2005, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by moidsm1@Jul 1 2005, 04:54 PM
[b]Do yourself a favor and figure out a way to move the new engine forward about 4 inches. Cutting out the firewall and loosing AC/heater really sux. I did that swap about a year and a half ago. I will be here if you need help. I am so glad this site is up.
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Quoted post
What can be done with the motor mounts to move the motor 4 inches? That is kind of a far move.
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mightymaxgst08-31-2005, 07:09 AM
Originally posted by bjs84D50@Aug 16 2005, 01:46 PM
[b]i have an 1984 D50 with a 2.0L SOHC inline-4 engine can i change it to a DOHC or do i have to get the 2.6L and go from there. i was also going to add a T-76 garrett turbocharger off of ebay,and etc so can anyone answer this? i was going to get 2.6L anyway but i was just wonder because im selling my old engine.
brandon
Quoted post
i hope you aren't talking about that xs power turbo bullshit.... those things suck......i have a 2.6 in my truck, makes life a lot easier than putting the 4g63 in....but keep in mind theh 2.6 is an old school motor you will have to do a couple things to make it run safely and reliably. swapping that motor in is a breeze tho.
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mightymaxgst08-31-2005, 07:11 AM
Originally posted by bjs84D50@Aug 16 2005, 01:46 PM
[b]i have an 1984 D50 with a 2.0L SOHC inline-4 engine can i change it to a DOHC or do i have to get the 2.6L and go from there. i was also going to add a T-76 garrett turbocharger off of ebay,and etc so can anyone answer this? i was going to get 2.6L anyway but i was just wonder because im selling my old engine.
brandon
Quoted post
.....and, you will have a lot of work to do to strap on a t76 on a stock starion motor....im running a 60-1...i don't need any bigger than that, that will make a lot of hp. anymore and i'll start breaking shit....
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88mitsu09-10-2005, 10:14 PM
sorry its been a while im still working on it and its coming along nicely. here is my needs list can anyone point me in the right direction for cheap parts 1: oil feed line from head to turbo, i tried buying fitting from autozone cant seem to get right size they only will go in about a half a thread i would like a stock one that i can modify like moidsm did 2: high speed thin radiator fan 3: throttle cable can some one make a suggestion on modifiing it or where i can get one that will work
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88mitsu11-23-2005, 07:25 PM
well i went outside today and finished pretty much everything on it... i got stuck on one part, on the stock mm ignition im going to splice the eclipse ignition wires into it i have both the books for the truck and car and niether one says anything about colors of wire... theres a total of six on each side... anyone have any hints.... on the mm harness there is a red/black, red/blue,blue,black,yellow/black,white/black.... on the eclipse harness we have a white, red/black,blue/red,yellow/red, and 2 black/whites....
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88mitsu11-26-2005, 12:05 PM
well the good news is i got it to turn over, but not thru the harness i had to run a wire directly from the battery to the starter, i started testing the harness and it seems there is no power in the entire harness.... even on the solid white wire which should have a 12v positive constant anyone have any ideas on what i should try... im going back out now to look at it some more ill check back in a little...
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88mitsu11-26-2005, 12:50 PM
ok i figure out what needs to happen to get it to turn over from the cab if you take the red/black wire and give it a 12v positive connection from the battery it turns over. also if you take the solid white wire and give it 12v power it turns on the ecu (at least i think it does cause the ecu makes a click noise and you can hear it) also i added in one of the black/white wires which is the accessory power... it turns over but doesnt start up. the fuel pump is hard wired and on a switch so we are getting fuel to the fuel rail, but i pulled the rail off to see if its spraying fuel and no fuel spraying out of the injectors. i checked the plugs on each fuel injector and all are getting power except number 3 cylinder. is there a way to clean old injectors or to check to see if they are functioning correctly...
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dtl121811-26-2005, 01:11 PM
QUOTE(88mitsu @ Nov 26 2005, 02:50 PM) Quoted post
ok i figure out what needs to happen to get it to turn over from the cab if you take the red/black wire and give it a 12v positive connection from the battery it turns over. also if you take the solid white wire and give it 12v power it turns on the ecu (at least i think it does cause the ecu makes a click noise and you can hear it) also i added in one of the black/white wires which is the accessory power... it turns over but doesnt start up. the fuel pump is hard wired and on a switch so we are getting fuel to the fuel rail, but i pulled the rail off to see if its spraying fuel and no fuel spraying out of the injectors. i checked the plugs on each fuel injector and all are getting power except number 3 cylinder. is there a way to clean old injectors or to check to see if they are functioning correctly...
Sounds like your in a heap of wiring, I'm not sure about all the wiring and colors, but as far as testing injectors, you should be able to check the resistance between the two wire terminals on the injectors. I don't have my manual right in front of me, but when I had my 300zx, I believe the injectors were supposed to have 14 ohms +/- 2 in order for them to work correctly. At least on my 300zx, another way to check injectors was to turn the crank/cam angle sensor, and turning the sensor would cause the injectors to operate. I'll have to get up with you soon, I picked up a talon and I'm starting to take the engine out now.
- David
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88mitsu11-26-2005, 01:22 PM
i pulled the injectors off and when i apply 12v then remove it the little needle on the injector goes in and out. oh yeah david if you need help making intercooler piping i have a wirefeed welder and a grinder with a cut off blade that rips threw metal piping we can make anything.
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dtl121811-26-2005, 05:16 PM
QUOTE(88mitsu @ Nov 26 2005, 03:22 PM) Quoted post
i pulled the injectors off and when i apply 12v then remove it the little needle on the injector goes in and out. oh yeah david if you need help making intercooler piping i have a wirefeed welder and a grinder with a cut off blade that rips threw metal piping we can make anything.
I was going to mention earlier that you could apply 12v to the injector terminals, but I wasn't sure if Mitsu's injectors fired on 12v, if they didn't I would have contributed to f-ing up your injectors. Thanks for the offer of being able to use your welder, I was thinking the other day if I needed to pick up any specialty tools, and a welder was one of them. The talon that I bought has 3" stainless steel exhaust all the way from the turbo down pipe, and I don't know if I want to hack up that stainless, or if I should just by some stainless steel pipe and take it to an exhaust shop. But, it will be a while until I get to the point of having to fab an exhaust. For intercooler piping, I think I want to try and buy mandrel bent aluminized or stainless pipe sections and connect everything with silicone hose. I figure I can mock up the intercooler piping with a rigid dryer hose to take measurements. I'm trying to pick up a starion intercooler to use as a front mount, I ditched my idea of wanting to do a top mount intercooler with a ram air scoop, I have too many concerns of water dumping all over the engine, plus the heat soak of having an intercooler sit on the top of the engine.
As far as an intake, I won the intake pictured below on ebay for $60 shipped, it looks like I can easily cut a hole on the other side and tap holes for mounting the throttle body. The only other parts I need for now are a new clutch, timing belt and etc, balance shaft elimination kit, and that's pretty much it. I'll hopefully be able to take the talon's engine out next weekend, then I'll start on the truck's. I still have that dipstick I need to get to you, if you want, email or PM me with your address again and I'll try and drop it off sometime.
- David
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mightyd5011-28-2005, 03:45 AM
88mitsu do you have an update yet ? i was looking at your picks and it looks like none of your vacum line are hooked up ? if you need pics of were they go i can take some for you from my talon tsi
also why do you have your intake pipe pointing to the back of the car i have a 3" intake pipe going to my turbo. to me just looks like a hell of a restriction on the air flow. did you mod your maf senser if not look at this http://www.vfaq.com/mods/filter-print.html
keep up the great work this will help alot of ppl including me when i can find a nice mighty max 4 sale
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88mitsu11-28-2005, 03:43 PM
well i worked on it some today, the injectors still wont spit out fuel, they get 12v when you hook into the battery negative but when you hook into the negative on the injector and try to start it they dont pulse on and off like they are suppose to. there is a few questions i need to get answers for like 1: what tells the computer to start injecting fuel 2: is the ecu supposed to make a buzzing noise when it has power 3: is the white wire on the eclipse ignition harness suppose to always have 12v+ (because mine doesnt i need to take a hot wire from the battery to feed the harness juice) oh also i have made a few changes since those pictures ill post them in a little...
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88mitsu11-28-2005, 03:58 PM
here they are
their definately is a mess of wire but im figuring it out slowly but surely... oh yeah that manifold was a sheetmetal manifold off of ebay that i hacked up myself to make the rwd manifold.
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tsiturbomightymax11-28-2005, 04:26 PM
i have a 91 tsi and i already have the motor in my truck i was just wondering if the tsi was automatic and my truck is standard do i need to buy a different ecu or can i hack a way around that and is there any site that shows the wiring for both talon and mighty max?
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bskater11-28-2005, 06:06 PM
Here are pics of my motor swap.
QUOTE(tsiturbomightymax @ Nov 28 2005, 04:26 PM) Quoted post
i have a 91 tsi and i already have the motor in my truck i was just wondering if the tsi was automatic and my truck is standard do i need to buy a different ecu or can i hack a way around that and is there any site that shows the wiring for both talon and mighty max?
Check the part # on your ecu and match it up to this site http://www.vfaq.com/mods/ECUs.html. This will tell you if you have a manual or auto ecu
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tsiturbomightymax11-29-2005, 01:40 PM
i know i have an auto ecu its in my automatic car. I was just wondering if i would need a different ecu??
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dtl121811-29-2005, 06:42 PM
QUOTE(bskater @ Nov 28 2005, 08:06 PM) Quoted post
Here are pics of my motor swap.
Check the part # on your ecu and match it up to this site http://www.vfaq.com/mods/ECUs.html. This will tell you if you have a manual or auto ecu
Hey,
That looks good. What type of mighty max do you have, and did your max come with power steering? I'm in the middle of removing the 4g63t from my talon, and I'm debating whether or not I should keep the power steering items. If you somehow swapped to power steering, I'd be interested in knowing about your process.
Thanks!
David
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88mitsu11-29-2005, 07:54 PM
well you shouldnt have to worry about using the manual ecu...
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tsiturbomightymax11-30-2005, 02:18 PM
u sure i dont have to worry about using my ecu cause i dont wanna have put everything in and find out it wont start cause its not reading the transmission sensors?
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dtl121811-30-2005, 02:31 PM
QUOTE(tsiturbomightymax @ Nov 30 2005, 04:18 PM) Quoted post
u sure i dont have to worry about using my ecu cause i dont wanna have put everything in and find out it wont start cause its not reading the transmission sensors?
I'd go to some Conquest/Starion forums and ask around to see if anyone has ran into this issue when swapping a 4G63T into their car. I bet that your not the first to be in this position.
- David
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dtl121811-30-2005, 08:52 PM
I hope this goes through. 88Mitsu needed some pics for his wiring issues, and my personal server only holds 5MB, (two or three of these pics).
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88mitsu12-01-2005, 05:18 PM
thank you david, ill see what i can figure out but lately its been getting dark at 4:45 and im not getting home till after that...
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tjcd5012-14-2005, 09:20 PM
Hello, I am swaping a 4g63 into my '84 d50. Wiring is almost done, i am waiting for a injector resistor pac from e bay as the last electrical componet. I have not tried to turn it over yet as there is still a lot to do but you can ask me any wiring questions-I think I figured it out.
My major hurtles.
1) fabricate o2 sensor housing (what are you using?) and then entire exhaust
2) hook up intercooler (right now I am plumbed directly from turbo to TB)
3) come up with a oil return line for the turbo-I looked at a kit from Slowboyracing.com but $80 is too much, so i plan to cut the hard line and use a length of hose like I did all the other turbo lines
4) turn it over
hows your progress?
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88mitsu12-18-2005, 11:32 PM
well i bought an o2 plate from slowboyracing and also a o2 bung i have a arc welder and a wire feed welder and i will be fabricating that after i get it started.. well basically my question on the wiring is there is 4 or five plugs that look the same and will interchange also what do i have to have hooked up... because i have about 6 plugs that dont go into anything... im thinking those are powersteering a/c and other components that i didnt hook up..
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dtl121812-18-2005, 11:46 PM
QUOTE(88mitsu @ Dec 19 2005, 01:32 AM) Quoted post
well i bought an o2 plate from slowboyracing and also a o2 bung i have a arc welder and a wire feed welder and i will be fabricating that after i get it started.. well basically my question on the wiring is there is 4 or five plugs that look the same and will interchange also what do i have to have hooked up... because i have about 6 plugs that dont go into anything... im thinking those are powersteering a/c and other components that i didnt hook up..
a few plugs that I found interesting the other day were for cruise control, emissions, ac. the guy before me removed alot of hoses, the ac sysem, and many plugs too. So I know I'll have alot of unused
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tjcd5012-19-2005, 08:45 PM
Check out this link, a lot of good wiring info. The picuture is of a '90 harness, mine was '91 and a little different. There are a number of plugs you do not need and they are all listed here.
Wiring (http://www.projectzerog.com/wiring-how_to.shtml)
I bought a O2 flange from RRE and and an O2 bung from slowboy and some 90 degree mandrel bends from Summit and hope to make something work with a wire-feed welder ( I am learning to use it now). Wish me luck. Still have not found the right pipe to go from the wastegate to the down pipe.
I also got a flex pipe, cat, resonator and muffler. That is going to be my project for the next month or so.
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TurboMightyMax12-20-2005, 09:35 PM
Everyone did it that hard way!!!! Take the 4G64 block, slap a complete 4G63 turbo head on it, block of the necessary coolant and oil passages and then crank it up and your boosted!
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tsiturbomightymax12-20-2005, 09:37 PM
yeah u could do that but u can't really boost it to high. If ur gonna make these things quick ur better off going through all the work so u can really romp these things.
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dtl121812-23-2005, 11:27 PM
QUOTE(88mitsu @ Nov 28 2005, 05:58 PM) Quoted post
here they are
their definately is a mess of wire but im figuring it out slowly but surely... oh yeah that manifold was a sheetmetal manifold off of ebay that i hacked up myself to make the rwd manifold.
Are you sure that the thermostat outlet is facing the right way, it looks like you could turn it around. It would probably make plumbing easier.
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darkmitsu01-16-2006, 04:47 PM
well kinda gave up on wiring it and talked to another shop the guy says we should put a holly carb on it. does anyone know anything about putting a carb on a 4g63-t also how do we get the spark plugs to fire? without the using the eclipse ecu...
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strictlybizines01-16-2006, 06:32 PM
A carbed 4g63t...that sound like bullcrap to me
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4g63mightymax01-16-2006, 07:20 PM
A few things that may help you out....
That 1G DSM's tend to have bad ECU's that have burned capacitors in them. This causes stupid problems, like injectors not working, no spark, hint hint....
You may want to try a known working 1G ECU and see if that helps any. Coming from a person who has done the 4g63 swap wiring and made it all work correctly.....Your best friend is the internet. Just get as many wiring diagrams as you can, print them out, and start highlighting the wires that are needed and not needed. Get the important ones out of the way, and worry about AC, heat, pressure/temp sensors, fans, everything else later. Remember that an engine only needs fuel/spark/compression to run. You must be missing 1 or more of those. Stare at the wiring diagrams for hours, and have them with you while you are digging under your dashboard. It helps. Also try and simplify everything that you can. You can get a cheap adapter at a hardware store that will allow you to connect the MAF sensor right to the throttle body. This eliminates the turbo and all its piping from the equation, and the engine will still run. You wont be able to go do smokey burnouts, but it WILL start the engine this way...You may also want to open your eclipse ECU and see if the circuit board is burned. There is a lot of good information on wiring, ECU's, vacuum diagrams, everything at www.vfaq.com (http://www.vfaq.com). Also check out DSMtuners.com. These are both great helps. If you are wondering, my truck was very fast, and I no longer have it. When I was building it, I put together a simple webpage to show what I did. Here it is, if you havent seen it already. http://members.aol.com/bagged1964/mightymax.html
I don't know how much longer it will be there since I havent had AOL for years, but you may want to copy the info just in case it dissapears one day.
Good Luck! please please, don't start adding a carburetor.
Jeremy
(hotrodcoffeeshop@gmail.com)
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pure insanity01-22-2006, 11:38 PM
sorry its been a while im still working on it and its coming along nicely. here is my needs list can anyone point me in the right direction for cheap parts 1: oil feed line from head to turbo, i tried buying fitting from autozone cant seem to get right size they only will go in about a half a thread i would like a stock one that i can modify like moidsm did 2: high speed thin radiator fan 3: throttle cable can some one make a suggestion on modifiing it or where i can get one that will work
ok i realize this particular part of the thread is old but i thought i may be able to help if you still havent found this.
the fittings for the oil feed line and other oil and water ports on the intake are sort of a metric pipe thread. basically they are still 1/4",3/8" etc pipe threads but the difference is the taper on the threads. if you run a 3/8"npt tap thru the threads you will just change the shape of the taper. alternatively, autozone sells a set of adapter bushings from sunpro, that says to be"metric adapters". usually sold near the water, oil etc. gauges.
as for the thin high speed fan. i like the a/c fan from a dodge dakota or durango. its mounted on the inside and is a puller instead of the usual a/c fan being a pusher. its 16" and moves a shitload of air. can be easily picked up in a junkyard for a few dollars. i use one on my starion and it kicks ass.
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darkmitsu01-30-2006, 08:01 PM
seperate thread created for 350 v8 swap
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boise-Nic02-08-2009, 12:00 PM
Hi guys I am new and this is my first post...
It looks like I am reviving an old post but I am also doing this swap. I have a mildly modded 90 tsi that has a bad tranny so I figured the engine needs to be reincarnated into something a little cooler. I've read through all the pages and feel confident I can do the swap. What I would like to know is...what is the thing like to drive? I know what a talon with approx 300hp feels like and it weights about 3300 lbs. From what I've read, the older mighty max trucks weight about 1179 kg or about 1900 lbs. I can't imagine what a 1400 lbs weight reduction (ok with a traction reduction too) would feel like. Also, what is the change in weight over the front wheels? I am assuming that the original motor was also cast iron but I'm still thinking the 4g would have more mass.
